Stonch’s blast from the past
Since Stonch banned me from his website, I’ve obviously not had any referrals. Until yesterday, when someone made a connection from this post in October 2007, the week I started my blog.
Ah, that takes me back. The good old sparkler debate. Beer blogging was such a Frontier-like experience then. Stonch was the pioneer and so many followed in his wake.
But who’s that also lurking in the comments section, an outspoken, if not slightly gruff, surfer called Tandle Man? I wonder if he is any relation to our own, cherished Tandleman, who has now also been delisted from Stonch’s blog list.
Who will be delisted by the cockney sparra next? My money is on Real Ale Blog, another early adopter, who’s name is not now mentioned at the Gunmakers.
UPDATE: Stonch-gate! Click here for latest
Loading...
You’ve forgotten Tyson who also got the chop. Yes, it seems I’ve joined the banned list too, though I didn’t know it until you told me. Oh well, it was only a matter of time. I have not commented on his site due to his anti democratic stance to comments, though following a regretted, ill judged and very unwise post of my own, it was tempting to adopt his way of doing things at least temporarily.
In my case I am more comfortable with admitting I was absolutely wrong and that I made a complete tit of myself. In Stonch’s case, it’s his blog, so he can play it his way.
I don’t remember the original post you referred to, but agree it was Stonch that inspired me to start blogging. Ah well you just don’t know how things will turn out do you?
Tandleman - April 5, 2009 at 11:40 am
I had a run-in with Stonch on Tandleman’s blog a while ago. He was simply abusive and incapable of answering reasoned argument. I completely wiped the floor with him, and he stopped posting on TM’s blog. I wonder whether I have inadvertently caused TM to be blacklisted. Ultimately it doesn’t really matter, as the internet is full of foul-mouthed, opinionated bloggers who think aggression and swearing constitute a debate.
It’s probably a badge of honour to be banned by the likes of Stonch.
Rednev - April 5, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Gordorn Bennett! Would you Adam and Eve it?!
Fatman - April 5, 2009 at 7:07 pm
“Real Ale Blog, another early adopter” – I don’t understand what you mean.
RealAleBlog - April 5, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Ah, happy days:) The truth is that in the vastly expanded blogosphere Stonch isn’t as relevant as he once was. Seems a bit unfair om TM though, as Stonch lists blogs that link to him, which TM does.
Tyson - April 6, 2009 at 6:46 am
I don’t believe in petty censorship, so my links list will remain as it is for the time being at least. This is all quite interesting though and if I get five minutes, I’ll check some other blogs to see if I’ve got the heave ho from them.
Tandleman - April 6, 2009 at 8:52 am
Real Ale blog – I meant you were on if the first
T & T – I also keep a link to Stonch’s blog. He may have banned us, but we have not banned him.
southportdrinker - April 6, 2009 at 11:38 am
Gentlemen, this is really silly.
Southport Boozer and Tyson, I deleted links to your blogs because you both stopped blogging. I’ve done it to other people before – including Knut Albert, who I have met many times and consider a friend – because that’s how one keeps one’s links list up to date.
As for the bizarre claims from RedNev above, I don’t recognise his description of my behaviour and although it hardly matters I’d like to make it clear I don’t agree with his characterisation.
As for Tandleman, another blogger sent me a link to the ill advised post he made the other day, and that’s why I deleted the link to him. It’s a fair enough reason, and again it hardly matters.
You know, Mr Southport Boozer, I’d have restored the link to your blog when you started posting again, but then I saw a post in which you were petty and unkind because I’d previously deleted it for entirely innocent reasons. Same goes for Tyson. Why should I be the subject of abuse by you people – and you really are a very small group, you know – yet still promote what you write? I simply won’t do it.
Jeff (Stonch) - April 6, 2009 at 2:28 pm
I’m not making this up, but as I read Stonch’s posting, the words of an old Seekers’ song ran through my head:
“We’ll build a world of our own, that no one else will share
All our sorrows we’ll leave far behind us there
And I know that you’ll find, there’ll be peace of mind
When we live in a world of our own.”
Rednev - April 6, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Tandleman, hang your head in shame; you have failed the Stonch good taste test! He needed you in the early days but now…
I was just going to post back on this thread about the growing tide of cyber censorship and then the great man himself posts. What a sad defence of censorship and intolerance. I didn’t know I had been removed from Stonch’s blog until I read on it SD. The reason is fair enough as it turns out-I didn’t pursue it at the time as I’d already stopped reading his blog. I’d seen the way it was going, despite Tandleman assuring me he’s a lovely guy in real life. Hmmm.
When he was setting out, Stonch made as many contacts as possible and was everyone’s friend. He played the game well and became successful. Sadly, as is often the case, power corrupts and he will not tolerate deviation from the word of Stonch. Now everyone likes the last word, I grant you, but unfortunately people are following his lead. Bloggers are deleting comments and or calling a halt to threads out of fear or plain arrogance. Which is silly because event the most heated thread will eventually burn itself out.
The golden days of blogging may well already be over.
Tyson - April 6, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Oh and am I the only one seeing the irony in Stonch claiming he’s the one being abused? This from the guy who called Tandleman a twat.
Tyson - April 6, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Tyson and Rednev, the comments you’ve left above say a lot more about you than they do about me.
I agree my blog changed direction somewhat, but that was a deliberate move. The fact you don’t like it is fine – don’t read it, don’t care about it. Don’t post on your blogs about it, and don’t engage in hateful chat about it.
Jeff (Stonch) - April 6, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Tyson and Rednev, the comments you’ve left above say a lot more about you than they do about me.
I agree my blog changed direction somewhat, but that was a deliberate move. The fact you don’t like it is fine – don’t read it, don’t care about it. Don’t post on your blogs about it, and don’t engage in hateful chat about it.
Jeff (Stonch) - April 6, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Huh. Deleted me for that? When I made that ill advised and frankly stupid blog entry, I had the decency to admit how wrong I’d been. See above where I said “regretted, ill judged and very unwise “. I’ve said it elsewhere too. When I get things wrong it’s “hands up” and a full apology. I would have deleted the post too, but that would have seemed cowardly.
What do you do when faced with this sort of nonsense? I used to feel some sense of “community” in blogging. No longer where this sort of thing goes on. I really do despair when you try your best to get on with people and actually defend them as I’ve done with Jeff on many occasions, even where I disagree over certain things.
This is very sad. Like Tyson I fear the golden days of blogging are over. It just doesn’t seem worth doing it when this sort of thing happens.
Tandleman - April 6, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Stonch: I can’t help what songs run through my head. I’m a singer-guitarist and there is never a moment in the day when a tune isn’t running through my mind, which is occasionally irritating. What I wrote above wasn’t a sarcastic comment ~ it actually happened. In general, it seems to me that you think you’re in step & the rest of the army isn’t. Thanks for the permission not to read your blog, but I haven’t anyway for a long time because I didn’t like it. It seems I’m not alone.
Rednev - April 6, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Stonch, you’ve left me mystified, but perhaps we can straighten things out on Mayday.
southportdrinker - April 6, 2009 at 8:20 pm
who’s Stonch?
….bar
mrbarbar - April 7, 2009 at 4:03 pm
The way Tandle Man has dealt the posh middle class f*cker is brilliant – he deserves what’s coming to him on mayday
Kev - April 7, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I have no idea what the above post or the one by SD is talking about. If there is something going on on Mayday, I’m no part of it. You’ll have to ask SD.
Tandleman - April 7, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I was thinking of joining some other Mersey anarchists for Mayday fun in Clerkenwell, when local comrades annually add some spice to the Turkish communist parade. Naturally a trip to the Gunmakers would be irresistable, as would the chane to meet the regulars and sample the beers we hear so much of.
Perhaps even Fatman might be there.
Any such visit would be in the spirit of alcoholism, rather than aggro. Kev is unknown to me and I have no idea what he means.
For the record, I have not discused any worker’s day journeys with Tandleman.
southportdrinker - April 7, 2009 at 7:32 pm
[...] responses to this post and recent spats with Tandleman and Rednev among others, point to a troubled state of [...]
Stonch-gate: Is this the smoking gun? « The Southport Drinker - April 8, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Bad Talismann, bad! I am literally laughing my arse off!
CEO APRK - April 8, 2009 at 7:03 pm
This is hilarious. A bunch of men getting upset because they are not linked or getting airtime at Stonch’s beer blog!
Tim - April 8, 2009 at 7:18 pm
This is the hilarious one, Tim
http://southportbooze.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/stonch-gate-is-this-the-smoking-gun/#comments
southportdrinker - April 8, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Tim just doesn’t get it at all. Does he seriously think it’s about THAT? Why doesn’t he ask his pal Sausage? He’ll put him right
Tandleman - April 8, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Hmm, its all a bit serious for me. I just drink beer and blog. The fact that people read it is a bonus.
So is Kev, ye olde stonch?? This is better than a choose your own adventure book.
Tim - April 8, 2009 at 8:37 pm